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States Seceding from the Union : Can We? Should We?

There is a huge debate going on all over the internet regarding States seceding from the United States of America.  There are those, on one side who are completely in favor of this, those who are completely against this, and those who fall in a wide range of in between. Those who are against it, are so against it, they are telling those in favor of it to “Move to Somalia!” Move to Somalia? Really? Have these people seen how Somalia is governed? Have these people ever read our Constitution? How they equate people who want to restore our country to a Constitutional Republic (or declare Sovereignty with a State Constitution) with Somalia, I’ll never understand. But, I’ll leave that for another day and another discussion.

As of this writing, residents from the following states have added their own secession petitions: New Hampshire, Illinois, Idaho, Rhode Island, Virginia, Wisconsin, Alaska, Utah, Wyoming, California, Delaware, Nevada, Kansas, Ohio, South Dakota, West Virginia, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Carolina, Georgia, Missouri, Tennessee, Michigan, New York, Colorado, Oregon, New Jersey, North Dakota, Montana, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, Florida, North Carolina, Alabama and Texas.

I count 39 States and I find that significant.  Now, before the White House will address a petition, it must first have 25,000 signatures. And to my knowledge, as of now, Texas is the only State that has met that requirement with over 80,000. Will the numbers of signers from other States increase? Probably. Will they each get the required 25,000? Doubtful. But what strikes me is citizens from39 of the 50 States are entertaining the idea of seceding from the Union. Suppose all 50 States end up filing petitions. Seems to me, with or without 25,000 signatures for each petition, that is something the White House must acknowledge. That goes well beyond a few fringe radicals having a temper tantrum.

But enough of me rambling. There are much smarter folks than I discussing this issue, so I will provide some links and maybe a brief commentary, and you decide. Is this something we #1) Realistically can do, and #2) Should do?

Ben Swann discusses Do States Actually Have The Right To Secede?

“Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government.”

Texas Secession Petition Racks Up More Than 80,000 Signatures, Qualifies For White House Response

A petition for Texas secession has qualified to receive a White House response.

As of Tuesday evening, the petition — which asks for the peaceful withdrawal of the state of Texas from the union — had racked up more than 81,000 signatures. (Only 25,000 are needed to elicit an official response from the Obama administration.)

Continue Reading: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/texas-secession-petition-qualifies-for-white-house-response_n_2125159.html

Residents In More Than 30 States File Secession Petitions

Micah H. (no last name provided) of Arlington, Texas filed a petition that had nearly 60,000 signatures as of Tuesday morning.

It reads:

The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.

Continue Reading: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/petition-to-secede-states_n_2120410.html

“Secession an important Constitutional Principle”

“It’s an American tradition to talk about secession”

Dr. Paul on Secession

Video from September 2008, describing Vermont, a very left leaning State, and their desire for secession.

THE STATES WANT TO SECEDE FROM THE UNION – FREE VT!

Following are two videos discussing New Hamphire citizens wanting to seced from 2009.

NH to Secede over Obama NWO Agenda

State of New Hampshire with Bill HCR 6 is just on one of several States who are drawing a line in the sand against the Federal Government. For any one of 6 very specific reasons, they will secede.

I. Declaring Involuntary Martial Law over any of the 50 States

II. Any kind of “domestic Draft” (Obama’s Service Corps)
*Obama’s Plan for The Draft- MANDATORY SERVICE everyone 18-25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtDSwyCPEsQ

III. Any kind of required service of Minors (Youth Brigades)
*”Obama’s Nazi Youth Brigade”pt1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVjcRkeKFsc

IV. Surrendering any power delegated or not delegated to any corporation or foreign government. (UN Millenium Declaration, which Obama supports.
North American Union/SPP agreement.
UN Carbon Taxes)
*CNN-Lou Dobbs- Obama Backing North American Union Agenda – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgGEv-cdoms
**CNN- Obama and UN “Millenium Declaration”- Carbon Taxes – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PePbtEABzGk

V. Any act regarding religion; further limitations on freedom of political speech; or further limitations on freedom of the press. (Fairness Doctrine)

VI. Any attempt to further restrict the the Right to Bear Arms
(Obama preposed a 500% tax on ammunition in his State and supports a nationwide version.
*CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vKfL2ETnF8

Obama’s Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel want to put Gun Owners on a political black list that will strip them of their rights.
*Commie Rahm Emanuel to Disarm America:”#1 Issue”, Gun Owners are Terrorists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vp7f1QKYmg

Obama’s Attorney General lobbied for the Total Gun Ban in DC, and thought it should go Nationwide.)

Heres the Bill:
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2009/HCR0006.html

Legislators tell feds to back off
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=87987

21 States Claiming Sovereignty: AZ, AL, AK, AR, CA, CO, GA, HI, ID, IN, KS, ME, MI, MO, MT, NH, NV, OK, PA, TX, & WA
http://www.mrstep.com/politics/az-wa-mo-nh-ok-claiming-sovereignty/

New Hampshire Bill to Secede from the Union

Glenn Beck’s interview with NH representative on NH bill to approve state’s desire to secede from the union

Even my own State, the Commonwealth of Virginia is getting in on this.

Peacefully Grant The COMMONWEALTH of VIRGINIA to Withdraw from The U.S.of America,and create it’s own Self-Government

Obama Federal Government Corruption,Lies,and Cover-Ups.Including potential Voter Fraud,with The Obama Admin.behind and Fostering the Ruination of Country,Laws,and Constitution,from every aspect of Governing,circumvention of the Law of The Land,and Utilization of Beurocratic means to bypass the Will of THE PEOPLE. 17 States so Far Have Filed for Secession.Must Originate and get 150 for WHITE house to post,and Recognize.Pls Sign:The government allows one month from the day the petition is submitted to obtain 25,000 signatures in order for the Obama administration to consider the request.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-commonwealth-virginia-withdraw-usof-americaand-create-its-own-self-government/R2BzGMPF

UPDATE!

Since starting this document, a lot has changed. It appears that now 7 States have the required 25,000 signatures and ALL 50 States are now on board.

Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, North CarolinaTennessee and Texas residents have accrued at least 25,000 signatures, the number the Obama administration says it will reward with a staff review of onlineproposals.

Things are getting quite interesting friends. I am looking forward to watching this play out. For mor information on the petitions, please refer to We the People web site.
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2 thoughts on “States Seceding from the Union : Can We? Should We?

  1. Corey J. Wesley on said:

    Reblogged this on Liberty Badger and commented:
    Don’t get emotional about this. Read it, watch the videos, remember historically relevant events, contemplate the options left on the table. I am not endorsing or condemning any of the ideas related to secession, but it is definitely an important issue considering the 39 states petitioning for secession. Again – don’t get emotional, get educated and form your own rational opinions.

  2. amazing post you gots here, thank you for sharing it!

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